DMAA and DMHA supplements are still for sale at a few online retailers despite their rocky relationship with the FDA and other regulatory agencies.
It’s also become nearly impossible to find any pre workouts containing DMAA, but a few are still available as of July 2020, including Dark Energy Pre Workout.
In addition to where you can buy DMAA and DMHA, I’ll break down what these stimulants do, my personal experience, and their legal history in various countries.
- 1 Where to Buy DMAA and DMHA Supplements
- 2 Comparing Effects of DMAA vs. DMHA
- 3 How to Take DMAA
- 4 How to Take DMHA
- 5 Effects of DMAA and DMHA
- 6 My Personal Experience with DMAA
- 7 Legal History of DMAA and DMHA
- 8 Frequently Asked Questions about DMAA
Where to Buy DMAA and DMHA Supplements
Due to the evolving legal status of these stimulants, retailers of DMAA and DMHA tend to “pop up” and then go away. I’ll keep this list updated with current trusted sellers.
Pre Workouts Containing DMAA and/or DMHA
There are still a few pre workouts that contain DMAA or DMHA. The most popular, by far, is Dark Energy. You can read my Dark Energy pre workout review or check out some other pre workouts with DMAA or DMHA below.
- Dark Energy (60mg DMAA + 200mg DMHA per serving)*
- Leatherfaze (45mg DMAA per serving)*
- Zeus (200mg DMHA per serving)
Full list: DMAA Pre Workout
*These are shown as “Mystery Pre Workouts” on the page, but the links are correct. 👍
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Pure DMAA powder (1,3 dimethylamylamine) can be purchased online at the following retailers.
A milligram scale is recommended for accurate measurements.
Bulk DMHA Powder
Pure DMHA powder (2-amino-6-methylheptane) can be purchased online at the following retailers.
A milligram scale is recommended for accurate measurements.
Related: DMHA Pre Workouts
Last updated on June 30, 2020
Comparing Effects of DMAA vs. DMHA
RealJoshTV reviewed the DMAA and DMHA from Bulk Stimulants. He ended up preferring DMHA.
How to Take DMAA
Dosage information is pretty sparse for DMAA. General recommendations from anecdotal reports suggest starting around 25 mg to see how you react before potentially increasing the dose. Many users eventually find that a dose between 25 mg and 75 mg works for them (use a milligram scale).
One study on the effects of DMAA on humans used a 25 mg dose and noted no significant increase in heart rate, blood pressure, or body temperature.
How to Take DMHA
Like DMAA, DMHA dosages are not well defined due to lack of research.
Most pre workouts that contain DMHA use dosages between 100 mg and 200 mg.
Starting at 75 mg to 100 mg to monitor effects is a reasonable starting point.
Remember: you can always take more, but never take less.
Effects of DMAA and DMHA
DMAA is a sympathomimetic drug, acting on epinephrine, norepinephrine, and dopamine in the nervous system. This impacts things like adrenaline, motivation, and pleasure.
In short, it is a stimulant that stimulates the hormones and neurotransmitters listed above, creating energy, motivation, and mood elevation in the user. This makes it relatively obvious why it would be appealing to athletes, especially lifters.
DMHA, also known as Octodrine, behaves in a similar fashion to DMAA at roughly 70% to 80% of the potency.
My Personal Experience with DMAA
I first purchased DMAA in 2015 from NutraBio, who no longer sells it. I added small amounts (~30 mg) to my normal pre workout before going to the gym and found this to be an effective way to dial up the intensity of my workout.
It absolutely added focus and motivation in the gym, helping me tackle my toughest training sessions.
I only used the DMAA in the mornings or mid day, never in the evening. I also only used it 1-2 times per week for my longer workouts. Under these conditions, I didn’t notice any significant adverse effects on my mood or sleeping patterns.
I have never used DMHA in this manner (supplementing it myself), though I have experienced it by taking Dark Energy, which contains DMHA and DMAA.
Legal History of DMAA and DMHA
DMAA has been under legal scrutiny in a number of countries dating back to at least 2011 when Health Canada declared it was not a dietary supplement, but a drug, effectively banning the sale of it in supplements.
Much of the controversy stemmed from the popularity of the original Jack3d pre workout, which contained DMAA and sparked warning letters from the FDA in 2013. While the FDA cites 5 deaths where DMAA was present in the individual’s system, it has not been able to prove that the DMAA was the cause of death.
A 2012 review of risks associated with taking DMAA by the US Department of Defense ruled that:
“The existing evidence does not conclusively establish that DMAA-containing substances are causally-associated with adverse medical events. However, a consistent theme among the studies is that DMAA use potentially affects cardiovascular function, just as other sympathomimetic stimulants. Without further rigorous study designs developed to evaluate the safety of DMAA, especially in patients with concomitant use of other substances, co-morbid conditions and high frequency use, the magnitude of the association of DMAA with adverse medical events is uncertain. Widespread use of DMAA-containing products by tens of thousands of Service members – often in combination with other substances – increases the likelihood of observing serious adverse events, even if the overall risk of a DMAA-related event is low, resulting in consequential impact to some Service members and other beneficiaries. DMAA should be further studied to evaluate its safety. Data from the case control study suggest that the frequency and amount of DMAA use and risk of specific [acquired medical events], particularly heat injuries and rhabdomyolysis, need to be examined in greater detail. … The Safety Review Panel recommended … to continue the prohibition of sales of DMAA-containing products in Exchanges and concessions. The Panel judged that the evidence supports sufficient risk, even if very low, of another death or catastrophic illness of a Service member who has used DMAA-containing products, without any offsetting benefit of these products.”
Ultimately it is up to the individual what risks they are willing to tolerate.
None of what is shared on this page should be construed as diet, nutrition, of health advice. Consult a licensed medical physician before taking any substance, including DMAA and DMHA.
A full list of the legality of DMAA in various countries is available on Wikipedia.
Frequently Asked Questions about DMAA
Do any pre workouts still have DMAA in them?
Yes, there are still a few per workouts with DMAA available. Dark Energy, Irate, and Leatherfaze are some of the last pre workouts available that still include DMAA.
Is it possible to buy DMAA online?
Yes, an updated list of retailers that have DMAA pre workouts and bulk DMAA powder for sale is maintained on this page.
Bulk Stimulants is a popular choice for DMAA powder.
Is DMAA legal?
In the US it is illegal for DMAA to be sold as a dietary supplement. That is why some products, like Dark Energy, are sold for research purposes only.
However, it is legal to buy and possess DMAA in the US. A list of laws for other countries is linked above.